[SPAM] - Re: [URBANTH-L]IRB and students - Email found in subject

Elzbieta Gozdziak emg27 at georgetown.edu
Wed Apr 4 11:00:55 EDT 2007

Hello Everyone,

This is a fascinating discussion and I think should be part of a wider 
discourse. Would anyone like to write a piece--either summarizing this 
discussion and/or setting up a wider discussion--to be published in the 
/Anthropology News/.  I am sure Stacy Lathrop would be interested in 
this kind of thing.  I am thinking of apiece that would be published 
outside the SUNTA column and reaching a wider readership.  The piece 
should be between 1500 to 2200 words.  Contributions to the next issue 
of AN are due by July 15th.


Lewinson, Anne wrote:
> In the last couple years, our IRB also developed a 'blanket' approval
> application for undergraduate class research projects which is very
> similar to what Elzbieta describes. As well, since my institution has a
> graduate program in education, we developed a set of criteria and
> procedures specifically for students conducting educational research. We
> felt a need to do so because inevitably they are working with minors (a
> 'vulnerable' population), and thus their proposals should receive the
> most thorough review, however the projects often focused on students in
> their own classrooms and much of what they were doing was more along the
> lines of trying out different pedagogical techniques (warranting the
> lowest level of review, if any at all). Our colleagues in Education
> voiced their concerns to the Board often enough that the IRB Coordinator
> and Board decided to re-evaluate the procedures and came up with a
> compromise.  
> Anyway, my point is that IRBs can be convinced to re-think their
> procedures so as to adopt something which is more appropriate to our
> needs. It will take some work on their part, however ultimately it will
> save them time in not needing to bounce proposals back to anthropology
> grad students repeatedly and not having a whole slew of ethnographic
> proposals to read for a full board meeting. A possible starting point:
> I've been forwarding these postings to the IRB Coordinator at my
> institution, and she has said they are very interesting reading. For
> those whom it might be appropriate, you might want to do the same. While
> the composition of IRBs does change yearly, the Coordinator usually is a
> staff member who is there for the long haul. S/he might be a good place
> to open up the conversation about developing practices which suit
> ethnographic research better. 
> Anne S. Lewinson [alewinson at berry.edu] 
> Assistant Professor of Anthropology
> Berry College
> 495010 Mount Berry Station
> Mount Berry, GA  30149-5010   USA
> Phone: (706) 236-5094
> Fax: (706) 236-2205
> -----Original Message-----
> From: urbanth-l-bounces at lists.ysu.edu
> [mailto:urbanth-l-bounces at lists.ysu.edu] On Behalf Of Elzbieta M
> Gozdziak
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:59 PM
> To: Patty Gray
> Cc: urbanth-l at lists.ysu.edu
> Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [URBANTH-L]IRB and students - Email found in
> subject
> Georgetown has a very similar system/procedure, with one caveat that the
> student research is for class papers, not for publication.  If students
> and/or the professor wishe to publish any of the student papers, IRB has
> to give approval for the research. 
> Elzbieta
> Elzbieta M. Gozdziak, Ph.D.
> Research Director
> Editor, International Migration
> Georgetown University
> Harris Building
> 3300 Whitehaven St NW
> Suite 3100
> Washington, DC 20007
> Tel: 202-687-2193
> Fax: 202-687-2541
> e-mail: emg27 at georgetown.edu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patty Gray <ffpag at uaf.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 0:04 am
> Subject: [URBANTH-L]IRB and students
>> Dear all, this is one of the most constructive discussions I have ever
>> participated in. I am grateful that this topic was brought up - each
>> response has added greatly to my understanding of the issues 
>> surroundingIRBs and my confidence in dealing with it.
>> About undergraduate student research projects: My IRB has what I 
>> think is
>> a good system - I went through a multi-stage online tutorial about the
>> history of the Belmont Report and the whole IRB process, and once I
>> completed it, I was "certified" by my IRB and had blanket approval 
>> for all
>> student projects carried out in the course of classwork under me. 
>> In other
>> words, they shifted the responsibility to me to assure that what my
>> students are doing is in compliance.
>> Patty Gray
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